Teen 'pregnancy pact' has 17 girls expecting »
Posted By pagey 3 months, 2 weeks ago in FamilyA Massachusetts city is investigating an apparent teenage "pregnancy pact" that has at least 17 high-school girls expecting babies, four times more than last year, including many aged 16 or younger.
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Candida3 months, 2 weeks ago
It certainly is. It also demonstrates the need for sex education. I mean proper sex education, not just about the functions of the reproductive organs and the mechanics of sex, but about it's consequences. From their pact, it's perfectly obvious that these girls are immature and definitely not ready for raising a child. Ignorance can have devastating consequences.
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smithichie3 months, 2 weeks ago
A little hands on experience, changing diapers, rocking a screaming baby, giving up personal time for baby duties, can go a long way in providing some perspective about the reality of being responsible for a new life. It's a shame these girls didn't try a bit of babysitting before baby making, it might have given them a different outlook.
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unome23 months, 2 weeks ago
We live in a country that blew up it's own buildings and blamed it on foriegn invaders, Illegally occupies yet another country in order to steal their oil. We kill civilans daily, our media lies to us for their corporate masters and torture has become acceptable by our leaders.
And we wonder why our children lack "values and responsibility"
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mark-stevens3 months, 2 weeks ago
Any other time, it's a stupid movie, ie "Knocked Up" or any other "I'm pregnant" comedies.
Considering one of the fathers is a 24 year old homeless guy, makes you wonder how far did they wonder from the trailer park.
I have a niece who has three daughters, two had kids before turning 17. One of the dads is some illegal Mexican who is already married!! The third is doing missionary work!
Two different dads, makes you wonder!!!!
Jerry Springer should have my family on!!!
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not2needy3 months, 2 weeks ago
Sunny, There's nothing liberated about children having babies simply because they can. They aren't financially or emotionally able to care for a child, and in the end, the one who suffers is the child. Children don't have parenting skills, which is why we see so many kids selling drugs by the age of 12, and their mothers are only 24 or 25 years old, on welfare, uneducated, and probably have more children.
It's completely unnecessary with all the methods of birth control that there is on the market today, yet the list of unwed mother's grows everyday.
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Courtney19903 months, 2 weeks ago
First of all, I do agree that there is NOTHING liberating about young kids having babies. These girls made ignorant decisions and they will realize what a mistake they made.
However, I am eighteen and I am a proud mother of my daughter and son. I graduated high school and I am going to college for my nursing degree, WITHOUT the help of my children's father. Every child should be as loved as my children and they never go without anything. Me and my children are doing better than most children with older, married parents. I can guarantee you my kids will have an education and you'll never see them on any street corner.
I understand your point and I agree with your opinion, but when are discussing teenage mothers, you shouldn't neglect to mention those teenage mothers who ARE SUCCESSFUL!
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not2needy3 months, 2 weeks ago
This goes on in so many places, girls barely able to conceive taking bets on which of them will have a baby first. When i was a social worker i saw cases like this.
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Spadecaller3 months, 2 weeks ago
The misguided need to feel important often seduces these unhappy girls into believing premature motherhood will alleviate their low self-esteem and win them the attention that they feel starved for. It is sad. As in most issues of this nature, the problem began long before they became pregnant.
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tanglang3 months, 2 weeks ago
I saw this on my local channels this morning. It is nothing short of disturbing. One of the fathers is a homeless man? What the hell is wrong with these girls? The news also mentioned that much earlier in the year the school nurse reported that girls wre coming to her office and becomming upset when they found out they were not pregnant. Could the school have done more? Hell yeah! They should have immediatly sent out a letter to parents as well as arrange some teen mothers to come and speak to the school about the importance of not damaging your chances to become successful in life.
Police say they have not decided to charge the fathers with statutory. Can we charge the parents with neglect while we are at it?
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ecotourusa3 months, 2 weeks ago
Obviously the boys weren't taught to use condoms. If they had just been educated about the dangers of unprotected sex, possibly the little boys would not have taken their little peckers out of their little pants in the first place.
Education and Prevention are KING! we cannot only point fingers at the girls. teach children common sense and economics is my suggestion. There is no way a teenage can afford to have children.
Imagine, in Texas they were trying to enforce that all teenage girls be vaccinated with Gardysil (sp?)
How sick is that?
why not teach them how to abstain or practice safe sex???
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jaern3 months, 2 weeks ago
Imagine, in Texas they were trying to enforce that all teenage girls be vaccinated with Gardysil (sp?)
How sick is that?
How sick is a vaccine to prevent cancer?
In the US, HPV is considered to be the most common STI. Approximately 5.5 million people are newly infected with genital HPV each year and about 20 million people are currently infected. Some studies estimate that 50% to 75% of the sexually active population are exposed to at least 1 strain of HPV, although most people don't develop symptoms. Because HPV is so common, a person can have very few sexual partners and still come into contact with this virus.
Your own mother was exposed to HPV when she became sexually active and she didn't have to be sexually promiscuous. Does she deserve cervical cancer?
I can't help but think if Gardasil prevented penile cancer we'd figure out a way to give it to boys in utero.
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aniokly3 months, 2 weeks ago
They never intended to use condoms. They wanted to get pregnant. The boys had no responsibility, financially or otherwise. They knew Daddy Government would take care of their illigimate offspring. It was all a stupid game to the girls. Nobody wins with people like this, and where the hell are their parents?
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CRYMTYPHON3 months, 2 weeks ago
You are missing the point.
It was not a matter of accidental pregnancy, because of ignorance of the facts of life; not a lack of birth control methods or materials.
It was deliberate.
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ecotourusa3 months, 2 weeks ago
I was compelled by this video. (especially toward the end)
you'll see why!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I2_5RtUmps
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Mdiar3 months, 2 weeks ago
What the ****?
This sure as hell wasn't the "in" thing when I was in high school... and that was only a couple years ago!
Crazy world... teach these kids some responsibility, the girls and the guys. Make contraceptives easier to obtain. Help the kids feel good about themselves. About all ya can do.
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bigurn3 months, 2 weeks ago
I am trying to find a calm response.....
Your casual response belies a certain lack of understanding of the repurcussions of this. The girls have a 70% chance of living *forever* in or near poverty. The babies have a 50% chance of repeating the girls' mistake, and perpetuating the poverty. All of this will be paid through our tax dollars.
Contraceptives wouldn't have worked; the girls were TRYING to get pregnant! And it may be that the "feel good about yourself" sentiment is a precursor to this problem, not the solution to it.
"About all ya can do"?????? How about responsible parenting, enforcing rules, doling about punishment, raising your kids with equal parts discipline and love, "tough love"? Maybe if the parents in this had tried some of that, the girls wouldn't be in this mess.
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Candida3 months, 2 weeks ago
I don't find Mdiar's comment casual at all. He is starting from the facts and focuses on the future rather than the past.
He says:
"teach these kids some responsibility, the girls and the guys"
"Make contraceptives easier to obtain."
"Help the kids feel good about themselves."
You say:
"How about responsible parenting" Isn't that what teaching them some responsibility means?
"raising your kids with equal parts discipline and love" Shouldn't the end result of that be kids who feel good about themselves?
The only place where you seem to disagree concerns punishment and contraceptives. Given the current state of affairs, I think punishment would accomplish little by now, and although the availability of contraceptives wouldn't have changed much in this case, it may make a difference in other cases, and more information about the consequences of sex certainly could help.
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pagey3 months, 2 weeks ago
It's obvious that these girls are very immature to make a pact like this, they in no way have the maturity to raise a child or care for a baby
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hyartep3 months, 2 weeks ago
yes, they are gonna learn the hard way. especially if they lack self esteem, and (it seems to me) support from family.
on the other hand, it is positive information, that having child is considered cool among youth. because people that do want no children make me feel more sad, than immature parrents.
btw, i'm all for planned parenthood.
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lvrofwolves3 months, 2 weeks ago
hyartep said-'on the other hand, it is positive information, that having child is considered cool among youth. because people that do want no children make me feel more sad, than immature parrents.
Are you honestly saying that you think this is positive? that CHILDREN having children is considered cool among youth is a good thing??? and that people who choose not to have children make you more sad then immature parents?
you are kidding right?
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Charlson3 months, 2 weeks ago
"But even if we had contraceptives, that pact shows that if they wanted to get pregnant, they will get pregnant. Whether we distribute contraceptives is irrelevant," said Verga.
Duh...but not all the girls made that pact. Contraception may have helped those who didn't want to be pregnant. But your solution is to throw out the laundry with the dirty water.
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lvrofwolves3 months, 2 weeks ago
I just don't understand it,I can't even imagine while growing up trying to become pregnant. How utterly irresponsible and immature, and selfish towards their child that will be brought into this world and their parents who will most likely end up raising those babies.And of course society pays because most end up dropping out of school,the teen Fathers are much more likely to end up in the criminal system. We'll all have to pay for their choices.
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Candida3 months, 2 weeks ago
aniokly: "My Grandmother said in the 1950s when we first removed the stigma of having illigimate children that that would cause an explosion of illigimate children."
I hope neither you nor your grandmother imagined that the stigma prevented all unwanted pregnancies. What it did create though were countless dead or mutilated women as a result of botched illegal abortions. I assume you are against abortions, right? The only thing that can reduce both "illegitimate" (How I hate this term. As if someone's stamp were required to make someone legitimate!) births and abortions is education and birth control.
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aniokly3 months, 2 weeks ago
There were no illigimate children in my family for generations, because of the stigma of engaging in pre marital sex. Sex is not a children's game. It is for adults. Can you not see what removing the stigma has done for society. We have stupid children seeing who can get pregnant the quickest, even servicing a homeless man. So, how's that education, and birth control coming along. It has failed.
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lvrofwolves3 months, 2 weeks ago
We have a pregnant teen right now, just moved into a 1 bdrm apt, she has her skateboarding little BF with her who just turned 20, he also has another teen Mom bring their toddler over for visits with 'Daddy'who doesn't work. They have 2 other teens living there with them, and daily about a dozen other KIDS come and go,bringing beer,playing around as teens do.it makes me sick, where are the consequences?. Seems the parents were extremely happy to get them out of their homes, now we have to put up with all that crap. Can't wait to hear an infant crying all night.
I'll say it again even tho it does sounds bad, forced birth control on teens. A teen usually doesn't decide not to have sex because they can't get birth control, they decide not to have sex for other reasons.
this is very very sad these girls did this, I just can't imagine what they were thinking or feeling to do something like this.
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nikkibabe3 months, 2 weeks ago
I pity the kids, who will be plain genuine American bast*@#$.
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toph19733 months, 2 weeks ago
What a joke. If I had a teen daughter that did something like this it'd be right over to planned parenthood. I can understand unplanned pregnancy, but babies having babies because they are jealous about another girl getting more attention is just plain pathetic. Unfortunately women don't ever grow out of this either. One woman at work gets pregnant and next thing you know another 10 of them are. I guess it's the naked emotionality that women use to make decisions in life. Yet they don't have the rationality or logic to make good decisions, and this is what we get. The selfishness, cruelty and viciousness that women have anymore is just despicable.
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lvrofwolves3 months, 2 weeks ago
yeah me too, because it does take a guy as well you know toph1973
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not2needy3 months, 2 weeks ago
Jealousy is never outgrown! I know so many grown women who can't stand to see a G/F get a new car, clothes, furnit
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